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I need someone to tell me how it is possible that after signing a no corporal punishment form that my 8 year old daughter is taken into a bathroom by a male PE teacher and paddled once? It took my wife and I over an hour to calm her ...However, this is a standard punishment for children and raises an interesting question as to its basis for a criminal charge. Yet, even spanking can go too far and become abuse a�� though spanking with a paddle was found by the Minnesota ...Or maybe, just maybe, the parents could have been responsible and not let their daughter bring the phone to school where I'm sure the policy is "no phones". Annoying that they arrested her. WTF? She's 14 and she's texting. ... When I went to public school--they used corporal punishment. I don't recall being flogged, but I DO recall Dean Withems paddle in 7th grade! February 18, 2009 8:39 PM A� deb said... I think that involved parents are the key to these types of problems ...I might have been paddled once. At home, however, my parents NEVER once hit or spanked me from the time I can remember. So, I am living proof that it is not necessary to use corporal punishment. I agree that parenting is important, ... Gretchen Day-Bryant has a son in high school and a daughter in middle school. She's lived to tell about the struggles of juggling little kids and work... < more > Joy Oglesby has an infant daughter and a sister 13 years her junior, ...He is still experimenting with implements so I got a taste or the belt, brush, crop and paddle. I DID cry. Now, granted, we are new to this, but I didn't have the same release, or feeling of adoration afterwards. While he was scolding me I felt like he was ... My HOH says that I am only submitting when I am in the mood... after all of last night, when my daughter woke up during the night, I was lazy and made my HOH get up to check on her. I ended up getting up as well, ...Riverview, Florida (The Weekly Vice) - Jose Ajpacaja-Ajiataz, a 34-year-old Florida man was arrested Wednesday after he beat his daughter with a belt and then shaved off her hair as punishment. According to the Hernando County Sheriff's Office, ... We aren't talking about a paddle. He's using a leather belt. Buckles and all I'd bet. Then he shaves her head. Young women usually identify long hair with being female. A woman's hair is a major part of her identity. ...I went to wal-mart and bought a can of formula because my daughter had jaundice so bad I was having all these issues breastfeeding (due to her being very so lathargic). Anyways, I think my daughter was about 2-3 weeks old at the time. ... Study after study has shown that physical punishment simply does not have the desired results. We should focus on educating parents about the benefits of positive reinforcement (which actually works!). Besides, if you smack your TWO YEAR ...I was spanked with a willow switch, paddled with a paddle (bought from Six Flags of all places), my mouth was washed out with soap and I turned out to be a better person because of it. Washing a child's mouth out with soap may by today's standards be 'cruel and unusual punishment' but so is the media bbmbarding my children with curse words on 'family' shows and the vulgarity of some cartoons that when I was kid was censored. Chewing on soap for 10 minutes was a bit ...BTW, I have no problem with corporal punishment for my own children if/when they misbehaved in school. I paddled my own daughter (in my class, after talking to the principal) for grabbing a boy who was bothering her by the throat. ...At Dearborn's Adams Junior High it was the a�?Shader Persuadera�?, a wooden paddle that science teacher Shader wasn't afraid to use on his 7th grade students. Another gym teacher at Adams would use the cord of his whistle on a wet bathing suit ... Married, with an 8-month-old daughter, he taught agriculture to high-school students for six years but had no prior administrative experience. He studied animal science at Clemson, served as state president of the Future Farmers of ...
I babysit for a couple, and I have been friends with them for nearly a decade. They have a 12 year-old daughter, and though rare she still is subjected to spanking via a wooden paddle if she acts up. I am not completely against spanking younger children but is there anything to really be gained by this form of old fashioned discipline on a 12 year-old? Her mother threatened to paddle her for coming home late and not informing her parents that she went to the pool instead of to a friend's house. By coming home late the daughter kept the parents from leaving on time and as a result the mother was not very happy. I realize the parents have the right to be upset but do you all think paddling for this would be a fair offense? They ended up not spanking her, but that doesn't mean they won't resort to that kind of discipline in the future. I know they love their daughter, but in this day and age isn't taking away her phone, ipod, etc a more effective and longer lasting punishment? What do you all think?


Conservatives, Do You Agree With My Top10 Wishlist?
Hypothetical....

There's a huge conservative resurgence in this country. Strong right-wing conservatives win a supermajority in both the house and senate, and win the presidency.

We have carte-blanche...you can pass virtually anything you want, and let's assume all the conservatives elected are hardcore conservatives, not these namby-pamby "moderate" conservatives (those ones might as well call themselves "half-commies")

Ok...would you support the following bills being passed if congress got the opportunity....

1.- A bill outlawing the practice of Islamic religion in the United States on the grounds of national security considering virtually all murderous terrorism in our era on this planet stem from radical clerics and leaders of the Muslim "religion".

2.- Criminalize anyone identifying themselves as a Socialist (as one Vermont senator currently does), and write a constitutional amendment to protect american liberty in case of a socialist coup like we're experiencing now, stating no law shall be passed nationalizing any currently privatized realm of industry, whether it's healthcare, autos, banks, or otherwise.

3.Congressional approval to immediately bomb and take out all nuclear fission capacities of the countries of Iran and North Korea because we as conservatives are smart enough to realize it's easier to do it now than when they've already built something to fire back at us.

4.- Regarding healthcare? Screw it. I'm a hard working man that makes enough money to insure my family's health, and maybe if these socialists quit handing out free coverage to people too lazy to earn, they'd actually be a plus for our economy instead of a drain.

5.- Round up all known illegal immigrants over 18 and send them back to their countries. Only illegal children with no parents are allowed to stay out of sympathy. All others must go. Sure, I know I know "we can't get them all"....true...but we can get a hell of a lot more than by not trying at all. If we can even capture 20 or 30% of them, that's still a couple million less criminals stealing Americans' jobs than we have now.

6.- A constitutional amendment making abortion illegal in ALL cases.
Yes I know some daughters are raped and blah blah blah. But 99% of abortions are lazy selfish women too irresponsible to face their impending motherhood. Those women belong in jail for 2nd degree murder. Those DOCTORS belong on the electric chair for 1st degree murder since they are the ones that literally kill the baby. And for the other 1%? God has a plan for those kids too.

7.- End affirmative action NOW. It's not my fault some colored kid has a ganbanging dad and a crackwhore mom. Life isn't fair. You don't get to play catch-up by depriving my son who scored a 1300 on his SAT's entry into your university, to make room for Shaniqua and Tokesha because they "from da hood" and scored 850.

8.- I'm against unreasonable censorship, but I'm not against censorship
to maintain order and safety in a society. Not letting people yell "fire" in a crowded theater, is a form of censorship...but it's one we need. Similarly, these lying vile kool aid drinking far left hate mongers like Janine Garafalo, Keith Olberman, Sean Penn, Susan Surandan, etc,
need TAKEN OFF TV AND RADIO. They aren't just "disagreeing" or
"dissenting"...they're willfully ENABLING THE ENEMIES OF THE UNITED STATES by undermining troop morale, spreading lies, giving verbal comfort to the enemy, etc. War is no time to dissent. If you want to dissent, do it WHILE WE'RE DEBATING A WAR. But once your side loses and we're in the war? It's time to either shut your mouth, or find yourself in a prison cell until the war ends so you can't
enable our enemies with your liberal bile.

9.- A bill which protects the rights of all parents and guardians to use reasonable corporal punishment on the kids in their care if they feel it is a neccesary measure for that particular kid. I say this because we're getting to a point in society now where a parent who gives their son or daughter a spanking or paddling for calling their teacher a "*itch" when they get home from school, or as a response to their 10 year old trying to light the neighbor's cat on fire, gets in MORE TROUBLE LEGALLY THAN THE KID COMMITTING THOSE ACTIONS. And I don't mean beating some poor kid senseless 200 times with a belt. But 10 or 15 pops with a hand or paddle on the backside in that 3 to 11 age range where kids take heed of it? I see nothing wrong with that. 40 years ago, about 90% of parents were pro-corporal punishment, and about 90% of kids behaved. Today, only about half of parents are, and only about half of kids behave. You do the math.

10.- Finally, regarding the environment. WE'RE ALL FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. I don't think people should be allowed to dump motor oil in a local stream, or spew cancer causing chemicals out of a smokestack all over a neighborhood.


My daughter started kindergarten this year & her 2nd day of school she received a paddling(corporal punishment is allowed in AR). Well every since she has been adamant about attending. She told me she was nervous & didn't like school.

Her teacher seems over-the-top. She called me yesterday saying my child wasn't herself & had smeared feces all over the restroom. When I arrived I learned she had a little accident & tried to clean it up. The nature of the call seemed as if my child had a psychotic episode or something. I feel the teacher blew it out of proportion....as she has on many occasions punished her entire class for something one child did wrong. She also asked me was my child on any medication(implying something mentally was wrong with her). My daughter is very intelligent, but like any five year old, she will be fidgeting and unfocused(especially when the school setting/nature is all new to them).

Is it me as a parent or should I hold some level of concern about her teaching tactics? I'm leaning towards changing her teacher before the mid-term semester.
For some of ur comments: I don't believe in corporal punishment...but the handbook at Barton(Barton, AR) clearly states if a child does anything that warrants a paddling...she will indeed get that form of punishment UNLESS a parent signs the statement saying their child can not receive corporal punishment. But! that's an automatic 3 day suspension if she doesn't receive a "paddling". Yes it is definitely unfair to parents as well as our children. No child shud be hit with any object in which my child referred to as a "flat bat" b/c she was unaware what she was being hit with (let alone punished for). Kindergarteners are innocent, afraid, & unaware of "adults" expectations of them as learners. She's not a bad child & clearly didn't deserve to be hit the 2nd day of school.


My ex-husband and I have very rarely ever resorted to using any sort of corporal punishment with our children, but our eldest daughter has defied every other means of discipline that we have given her recently, and we are now considering using it on her. She's a very strong-willed, highly tempermental 14-year-old and we've already tried grounding her, revoking privileges, lecturing, positive reinforcement, picking our battles, and even therapy. She's snuck out while grounded, and has refused to talk or eat when things have been taken away. We talked to her pediatrician about this because this is an honor student and JV athlete who never had previous discipline problems, but there is nothing medically or mentally wrong with her. She's just a teenager. I don't know if getting her to cooperate with giving her a paddling that I would administer privately is even something we could do. Her father remembers being paddled at 15 and how it changed his attitude for the better. I don't know if it could help her or make things worse, and if we are in the wrong to even consider it. Have other parents used corporal punishment on older children and teens?

Please don't bash us in your answers. I'm just getting opinions, and honesty is great but verbal insults are not necessary.
We've already tried grounding many times. It doesn't work with her. We'd never pull her hair or beat her senseless. She's petite for her age (5'4 and about 90 pounds) and I don't think she'd turn around and hit us.
Yes, "Ultimate Nobody" I am referring to spanking her. I just tried to avoid using the word "spank" because I've noticed from previous questions in this section that it draws in a lot of trolls.


My daughter starts middle school next year, and in the packet is a "permission for corporal punishment" form. I am a spanking mother, but I'm undecided on whether or not to let a (female) vice-principal to give her up to 4 swats with a paddle. I don't need to be told spanking is wrong, I just want to hear from anyone who has given such permission, and how it worked out and such.
Er, make that 5th. Forgot to proofread that. Maybe I'm the one that needs paddled. ;)
Just realized I should probably point out that in this case, middle school means 6th grade. She'll turn 11 in a few weeks. I do spank, but not very often, and I actually doubt she'd ever get in that much trouble. But just in case... I'm really conflicted on this one.
Quick not to Belinda: although it's been several years, I *do* know what a school paddle feels like. I know it hurts, but, at the same time, that's kind of the point.


Someone asked a question earlier tonight about punishing a teenage girl for taking her mom's car without permission, and one person answered:

"You have your license so you're at least 16. If you're spanked with a hair brush, I say 16 on each side of your butt. If you bend over for the paddle or the belt, I say 16 with the paddle or 10 with the belt.

If your mom wants it to hurt more, she can have you lower your jeans and/or underwear before the punishment begins."

To me, that's a sadistic, completely inappropriate, perverse punishment, and I can't imagine any CPS agent letting it fly. I'm 17 and I also can't fathom a teenager submitting to such a "punishment." I'm offended just by the suggestion.

Does anyone actually think that sort of punishment is appropriate? Would you do that to your own daughter? If you were a teen, would you actually let your parents do that to you?
The answer was given by a user named "Jeff N," and since I've read several other of his answers where he always advocates spanking, I immediately thought he was a troll with a spanking fetish, and I called him on it. He replied "No fetish. I just remember when a sore butt solved so many problems. Kids had less freedom in those days. Moms and dads were parents in those days."

I don't know what days he was referring to, but I don't think that would have ever been okay. I'm trying to not be offended, but it's hard. I just think an answer suggesting abuse is offensive, and I'm totally creeped out and worried that there could actually be parents out there doing warped things like this to their kids.
Jeff N: Ita��s wonderful that you have fond memories from your childhood, but they are totally irrelevant to this question. I dona��t think what you advocated would have been any more acceptable back in 1969 than it is today, and even if it was, we live in 2009 and time is progressing forward, not backward, so your pontification was rather pointless. The world is diametrically different than it was in the 1970s, and in some ways perhaps it was better back then, but for the most part I believe the progression has been positive. For as much flack as my generation is given, wea��re actually doing better than our predecessors in many ways. There is a record number of us going on to college and pursuing fulfilling professional careers, and thanks to the internet and other technology we are far more aware & involved with the causes of the world. I recently read an article about how teens today are more emphatic, informed and ambitious than their parents were at our age.
Teens mess up now, just as they did when you were a teen, but the answer isna��t a degrading, humiliating punishment. One of the biggest problems today is that too many kids have idle hands, and that has more to do with all the modern-day conveniences that make chores and tasks far easier than they were in the past than a decrease in spankings. That along with larger class sizes, the influence of the media, the advanced technology, terrorism, and so many other variables have a much bigger impact on society than the disciplinary style of its parents. Plus, back when you were a teen the internet with ita��s multitude of perverts and fetish sites did not exist, and a�?spankinga�? had a totally different connotation. Type in a�?spankinga�? on Yahoo and youa��ll come up with far more fetish and porn sites than parenting ones. As I wrote in the original question, and Xpert pointed out in his answer, that user most likely was a troll with a fetish, and you fed right into it with your answer.
Youa��re 54, and with all your life experience ita��s astonishing that you would believe that a mother would instruct her teenage daughter to solicit advice from strangers on the internet on how she should be spanked and how many swats she deserved, as the asker claimed. Ia��d hoped you were also a troll with a fetish and not a sincere parent actually suggesting that physical and sexual assault be dressed up as discipline, and when you said that you didna��t have a fetish, that you were being honest, I felt ill.

THANKS TO EVERYONE ELSE WHO ANSWERED.


My daughter who is in kindergarten took a couple pieces of candy from the teachers desk. She didn't ask for it so the school considers it stealing and in all reality I guess it is. I refused to let the paddle her with their "school regulated" paddle. (2 inch board). Told them that I would spank her for it if they brought her to the office and they refused to let me. Said that they couldn't allow that, it was considered abuse if I did it apparently. But what gives the priciple(a perfect stranger) the right to do so? After arguing about it they decided that she had to do 3 days of in school suspension, sit in the office all day, eat her lunch there and had absolutely no contact with other children or any activity. I really think this punishment was quite harsh for a 6 year old who took candy because she was hungry. The Kindergarten classes at our school eat lunch at 10:20 a.m. No snack offered in the afternoon unless brought from home and it has to be healthy foods. In that case, candy should not be lying around a classroom of tempted hungry 6 year olds. Does anyone agree with me about this? How would you handle it?


I have a friend who has an eleven year old daughter.. we go over to their house and my husband and her husband shoot pool. We go over a few times a month. Well, last week we were there and her daughter stole sixty dollars out of my purse. She got caught in the act.
Now, my friend is a religious and firmly believes in spanking as punishment. She made her daughter come to me and apologize, and then my friend went into the kitchen and got a paddle. She took her daughter to the other room and spanked her with the paddle. I could hear the paddle hitting off her booty. OUCH!! She spanked her five or six times.
I do not know where I stand on this. I believe in spanking as well. I do not even think using a paddle is abuse, but I think eleven may be a little old. However, what she did was bad and had to be nipped in the bud.
Was she too old for this type of punishment? Please do not bash my friend because it is her choice in the end, this was not abuse. I want opinions on is she was too old to be spanked, not whether it was abuse or not. I already know that


Today, my 12 yr old daughter brought home a form that needed to be signed by me asking for permission for corperal punishment. The children get 5 mins between 7 classes to go to the bathroom and go to their locker and get to class. I understand that being on time is important but do you think they should get spanked for the first offense? They are not allowed at any other times to go to the bathroom. My 3rd grader's class is only allowed to go to the bathroom 2 times a day and school is from 8:20 to 3:25. They also get paddled for tardies. There are no warnings. I'm not saying children should be late for school or class but I do think they should be allowed 2 tardies before they are punished. Would you let the school spank your child?
Hey, I'm all for punishment when needed and groundment but I don't think paddeling is the answer for 1 tardy.


My niece, Brittany is my sisters daughter. She is completely out of line does drugs, drinks, gets herself in bad situations...... My sister is having nervous break downs and I have custody of her. I laid 3 firm rules down:

no dating
no drugs, smoking, drinking, etc..
no staying out past 9

Yesterday at one o clock worried I drove around and she was asleep in a guys car! I woke her up and I could just smell the beer on her. All the guy said "If I did that, my parents would paddle me into a coma." And she said "My aunt would never do that, she's to much of a wimp." I told her there would be punishment but I haven't decided yet. She broke all of my rules in one night! Her parents punishment that they tried and I tried was taking stuff away from her. It has never worked.


What would be a god punishment? Here are all the issues:

1. broke my rule of no drugs
2. broke my rule of no dating
3. broke my rule of staying out past 9
4. called me a wimp
5. well, there has to be more in there
oh yeah, she's 15


Right now I am debating on schools for my daughter I have given up on public school after the poo her school tried to pull and considering sending her to a private school. My daughter is 9 and there are 2 schools she could apply for, but when I was looking over policies I noticed one school said they still use the paddle. I am not quite sure if I want that they say there is a slip I could sign which would exempt her, but I am not sure I could send her to a school that did that; but on the other her hand the public school and some discipline problems and I bet the kids are more behaved or the class is better controlled how about that. Would you send your kid to a school that still practiced cp?


I have been going through a stealing problem with my six year old. I think we have got that nipped in the bud. But today, my eight year old daughter stole a pair of sunglasses in wal mart, becasue I would not get them for her. She stole once when she was six, and we made her give back the "item" then and admit what she did. She was promised a spanking if she ever did it again. So, I made her tell her father what she did. We have a paddle that has never been used, and my husband used it today. He gave her five hard swats to her clothed bottom, because we thought this deserved a big punishment, and we think she is too old to have to take her pants down. Was this too severe, she cried a lot, but said it did not hurt that much? She said she was just sorry she did it? Should we have gone easier on her?
She was not beaten by any means. I do not think the spanking even hurt that much, I think she was crying becasue she knew she had dissapointed us


she was in her cheerleader uniform and her skirt was raised! she got 10 swats for skipping class, smoking, and smarting her mouth. i did sign the corporal punishment papers, but did not know she would have to raise her skirt. she can be bratty and has been spanked many times.


We (single mom and kids) moved from Ohio to Mississippi in April and my kids are adjusting to their schools well, although I don't like the year-round schooling we have in my district. To the point, my 8th grade daughter, who is a great kid (honors student etc), knowingly and intentionally helped a friend cheat. She was, I am sure, just trying to make a new friend--this is way out of character for her. That said, the behavior is obviously very wrong. The school sent home a paddling consent form. I did not even realize Mississippi still paddled. I am not necesarily anti-spanking, but it certainly was never the first resort in our house, and I never really thought about it at school (thought it was illegal). On the other hand, apparently my daughter did know that the clear penalty for cheating is licks, and I am a big believer in follow through, and of supporting the school. I don't know what to do. She is a good kid, but I don't want her to think that gets her around rule


My daughter (8) left the house without permission yesterday, and we had no idea where she was for three hours. She got in the car with her older cousin and went to a freinds house without asking me. When my husband and I found out, we went and got her. We discussed punishments, and decided that she deserved a spanking. I gave her seven swats on her clothed bottom with a paddle, that we only use for big time misbehaivors. Do you think we were too severe? This is only the second spanking she has gotten since she was six. I thought this meritted one, but was wondering everyone's opinion on whether we were to severe?
Oh Yeah! Her cousin will not be drving for the next month.
I spanked fairly regurally until she turned five, then the need went away. I try to only spank for big things. I thought this was a big thing
Thanks Texas Mommy, the only reason I used the paddle is I don't think its apropriate for my husband to spank at this age, and she has a tough hiney lol! I thought I could send a better message with the paddle


My daughter (8) left the house without permission yesterday, and we had no idea where she was for three hours. She got in the car with her older cousin and went to a freinds house without asking me. When my husband and I found out, we went and got her. We discussed punishments, and decided that she deserved a spanking. I gave her seven swats on her clothed bottom with a paddle, that we only use for big time misbehaivors. Do you think we were too severe? This is only the second spanking she has gotten since she was six. I thought this meritted one, but was wondering everyone's opinion on whether we were to severe?


Moving to my hometown State b/c of work & personal issues. My 6yr old daughter has serious behavioral issues & in school she's sometimes violent. She has ADHD & ODD. She's in Therapy & on meds. I am talking to the school board in the state we're movign to & they think that maybe reg. ed would work for her but would like to see her records/med recs. She has an IEP & is going to a behavioral classroom now. I downloaded the new school(hometown state) hand book & found they still use corporal punishment. I grew up with it, I got in trouble ONE time in 3rd grade, was spanked with a wooden paddle & NEVER got in trouble again. I'm thinking that my daughter having this done ONCE may help. Does anyone know if you agree to it, if you can change your mind later? Their handbook says this: For students in the lower grades, corporal punishment is limited to strikingthe student on the buttocks a maximum three times with the hand or with a woowoden paddle (18 "L x 3-6" W x 3/8" thick)


me and my hubby have been married for 11 years and we have triplet beautiful girls that r ten. my husband makes sure i dont get out of line.2 weeks ago i got in trouble by stealing forty$ from him and then lying. and then i got a parkig ticket and got caught drunk driving but was left with a warning. he took all my credit cards, my cell phone for three weeks my pager,my ipod and my car away for a week, and then spanked me. then he gave my corner time and the, but i have 2 questions, 1 was my punishment suitable and no mean comments, 2 one of my daughters walked in while i was getting a paddling, ihad no clothes on and was bent over chris, my husbands knee with a red bottom,i dont know wat 2 tell her she wont leave me alone .everyone besides our newborn and chris get spanked by chris,but my children dont no that should i tell her or not i like it that he makes sure i stay in line,so no rude commnts.also b4 we go to any store he gives me maitenence spanks dos anyone get those


If your son/daughter cussed, you would:
A.Ground him/her (how long?)
B.Spank him/her (with what?)
C.Wash his/her mouth out
D.Other (what would it be?)

If your son/daughter didn't do homework, you would:
A.Ground him/her (how long?)
B.Spank him/her (with what?)
C.Sit with him/her and make them finish it
D.Other

If your son/daughter hit you, you would:
A.Ground him/her (how long?)
B.Spank/hit back
C.Wait until his dad/mom got home (why?)
D.Other

If your son/daughter spanked his/her younger sibling, you would:
A.Ground him/her (how long?)
B.Let the younger sibling spank him/her (with what?)
C.Spank him/her yourself (with what?)
D.Other

How old is your son/daughter?:
A.12/13
B.14/15
C.16/17
D.18/19
Additional Details

1 hour ago
Would you ever spank your kids in public?:
A.Yes
B.No
C.I don't spank

How do you spank?:
A.Bare Bottom
B.Only underwear
C.On pants
D.Naked
E.I don't spank

What do you use for spanking?:
A.Switch
B.Paddle
C.Hair brush
D.Spoon
E.Hand
F.I don't spank


If your son/daughter cussed, you would:
A.Ground him/her (how long?)
B.Spank him/her (with what?)
C.Wash his/her mouth out
D.Other (what would it be?)

If your son/daughter didn't do homework, you would:
A.Ground him/her (how long?)
B.Spank him/her (with what?)
C.Sit with him/her and make them finish it
D.Other

If your son/daughter hit you, you would:
A.Ground him/her (how long?)
B.Spank/hit back
C.Wait until his dad/mom got home (why?)
D.Other

If your son/daughter spanked his/her younger sibling, you would:
A.Ground him/her (how long?)
B.Let the younger sibling spank him/her (with what?)
C.Spank him/her yourself (with what?)
D.Other

How old is your son/daughter?:
A.12/13
B.14/15
C.16/17
D.18/19
Additional Details

1 hour ago
Would you ever spank your kids in public?:
A.Yes
B.No
C.I don't spank

How do you spank?:
A.Bare Bottom
B.Only underwear
C.On pants
D.Naked
E.I don't spank

What do you use for spanking?:
A.Switch
B.Paddle
C.Hair brush
D.Spoon
E.Hand
F.I don't spank


We moved to this small district in Texas about a year ago, and although a few of the kid's friends have mentioned being "popped" at school, I thought they just meant they were lectured, I had no idea they were being spanked.

My daughter is 15 and at her jr high they have a rule that more than 3 tardy's to any one class is a trip to the principal. She has a hard time because her locker is very far away from this class. She went to the principal who said that since I (her parent) hadn't signed the corporal punishment slip that they couldn't paddle her, so instead they gave her ISS (in-school suspension) for Monday and Tuesday of this week. The only way out of it was for me to sign the slip (they called me and then sent one home wiht her on Monday).

My daughter would rather take the paddling, and I'm nervous about that. I was paddled in jr high and it was humuliating and painful. Should I really let her make that choice? Opinions please.
Unfortunately it is legal in our school district. I have no idea why, but it is. :(
I also wanted to add that I don't have a problem with spanking itself. I spanked my kids when they were small. However I'm not so sure about the school doing it. The principal did say that the parent can go in and spank the child as well (I assume that means they lend you their paddle and you spank them in front of the principal?) I'd be more for that than the principal doing it himself. I think my daughter doesn't see it as a big deal and that's why she says that's what she wants, but I would hate to think that she has to hold in the humiliation the rest of her life. I really don't know what I should do. Maybe if the school does it, it makes more of an impact? Or I should go to the school and paddle her myself? Perhaps that would be too embarrassing. I do think she deserves something as she has been warned over and over about tardies, she could come in earlier and she tends to be chatty. Oh well. Thank you for any and all advice. I do appreciate it.


My daughter has been acting like a baby (shez 12) and she seems to not care for spankings. Spankings don't hurt anymore. So I went out today and bought her some un-removable diapers. Of course I could take them off but this is a lesson she needs to learn. Before I put them on her, I spanked her with a paddle and told her that this was for her own good. I took away her pants and her underware and put on the diapers. Then I sat her in a corner in the living room. What she did to do this was that: she has been cursing and threating people at school. I have tried this punishment for a week so far and it seems to be working. I haven't had to spank her yet. I threw away her underware to show her I meant buisness. And now she if forced by me and her father to ware them or she'll get a good swat on the butt. Do you think this is a fair punishment? She gets home, puts on a different diaper and eats. This punishment will last 1 more week.


She was not arrested because I caught her. She says it is no big deal I say it is. We agreed to let you all arbitrate. If I had my way she'd be upended and get paddled. She says there should be no punishment because it is just no big deal to smoke a little reefer and anyway I did it when I was a kid. (So I KNOW how bad it is folks).

So what is the appropriate punishment if any in this case? You decide.


I have a 2 year old daughter Very Very Active! I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was a kid, and she is just like me. So I am assuming she has it too, no big deal. Well I don't like to spank her, don't get me wrong I spank her when she needs it, but When possible I perfer time out, or talking to her!or different types, EX: she pours a drink on the floor, she cleans it. Well everytime I call my mother-inlaw , (when she has her) and ask her how she was, she gives me a whole list of things she has done. How do I make her realize, She is ADHA and is not going to be as good as the other kid, but there are ways to handle the behavior. EX: She does have a biting problem, well she told me she bit 2 kids, she put her in the corner, 2nd time whip her, and told her if she did it again she was getting out the paddle. That really upset me. Whiping her is fine, but I would really like her to not use a paddle. Am I crazy, How do I tell my mom and her I want us all to usethe same methods of punishment
Also I don't want to make any one mad ( you know parents... they will say Ohh I know how to punish kids I raised 3 of them) I want them to take me serious and not go behind my back!
Well the things is how do I talk to her, I tried earlier and she made me feel like i was crazy!
It's not my mom, my mom I have no problem with,,,, it's the motherin law .. she always thinks she knows better... and to who said don't go around telling people she has adhd... I'm not , I just don't want her to be whiped, I was adhad and that only made things worse.
PEOPLE she doesn't have bad behavior, She is a good child, just very very active she can't be still which lead to trouble, I know how to deal with it, others don't.


She is 12 and was told the next time she came home late and worried me she was going to get a good spanking. She was last spaked about two years ago. Across my knee on the panties with my hand. Should I use a paddle or brush now? I have tried other punishments but the only thing that has ever worked with her is a good pantie warming. I was spanked to the late teens and looking back it did me alot of good. I am a singel mom and my Mom says that if I dont spank her she will. Is it best to still put her across my knee,,,or is there a better way. I heard her tell her girl friend I would never spank her,,,I wonder what she will say the next time she talks to that friend. Loving but strict Mom,,,inb

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im writing an essay for a DAR project (daughters of the american revolution). im in 6th grade. the essay has to b 600-1000 words. im just wondering what month they started building the railroad. i know it started in yr 1863 and ended yr 1869. i just need the month.
thx to whoever lets me know.


I'm a female, Caucasian senior, and I have a 4.43, 4.0 unweighted, 2200/1450 SAT, 710 AP US, 700 Literature, 5 on AP World, AP US, AP Psychology, and a 2 on AP Chem (baaaad day). Ranked 1/406 in my school (in the top 500 schools in the nation).

Taken 8 APs and 2 Honors classes (and many Advanced) throughout high school career, as well as a college course in Sociology in the summer (A+).

Founder and President of Amnesty International, President of National Honor Society, President of Science Olympiad, Secretary of Key Club, Vice President of Spanish Club, High School Paper's Copy Editor and Staff Writer, Publications Manager of California Scholarship Federation, Assistant Director, Actress and Volunteer for my school's theater, Drama Club member, Academic Decathlon.

Freshman Orientation Counselor, Volleyball Camp Counselor, BIG into volleyball fresh and soph year, Tennis Camp Assistant, Office Volunteer for local elementary school, Volunteer at Local Library, my school's Science Institute.

Junior Auxiliary Member in the Pediatric Ward at a local hospital, Volunteer at Ride to Walk (therapeutic horseback riding clinic), and Volunteer at a local home for patients with Alzheimer's. Youth leader for the passing of a local measure to keep park funding.

500 Hours Community Service, likely to be 600/700ish by the end of senior year.

Veterans of Foreign Wars, Essay 1st place winner, National Merit Scholar, Distinguished Community Service, American Legion Environmental Camp by essay application, Presidenta��s Academic Award, RHS Theater Assistant Director of the Year, Daughters of the American Revolution Good Citizen, AP Scholar.

Worked in pharmacy over the summer.


my 6th grade reading teacher asked us to do this project called the DAR (DAughters of the American Revolution). we need to write an essay about it. we can choose to b a settler, a chinese immigrant, or a native american. i am choosing to pretend to b a native american. so i printed out a few articles about the transcontinental railroad.
the topic is "Transcontinental Railroad". i am supposed to write about how i felt and stuff. u know, like a fiction book. so i just need more facts. just about the native americans during the time they were building the transcontinental railroad.


Mrs. Obama wasn't proud of our Nation until her hubby got nominated for President. I wonder which of these things, which happened after President Obama took office, would make Mrs. Obama proud:

Would it make Michelle Obama proud:

*That her husband just sold out the people of Eastern Europe to Dictator Vlad Putin?
*That the people of that region, who were supposed to be celebrating the anniversary of their revolution and freedoms, are tonight staring blankly, questioning how this could be, sobbing in groups, clinging to children and praying out loud?
*Are ya proud today....after shutting down block after block during Wash DC rush hour traffic, causing massive delays for people just trying to make it home to their families, closing walkways, needing dogs to sniff out entire streets and parking lots, buildings, etc....SO THAT YOU COULD BUY SOME KALE? (so much for caring for the little guy).
*That your hubby sent Valerie Jarrett to REPRESENT our Government, to an ISNA Islamic groups hate-fest, joining in and celebrating the anti-semitic hate-speeches and denials that the holocaust ever happened?
*That you sat there today and shed tears as you thought back eight years ago when one of your daughters became ill and you stated: "the first thing I thought of was: gee, I am so glad we have good insurance". HOW ABOUT saying how "glad" you were at the fact that you got to a doctor right away? How about how happy you were that the E.R. was available to you right away? How about the top-notch care you got from American medical services? How about being glad that your daughter was given the best medications?

ARE YOU PROUD OF ANY OF THESE THINGS?
Because frankly, this democrat who VOTED FOR OBAMA, is disgusted thoroughly.....and even a bit ashamed tonight.


Salam wa alaikum,

Ramadan Mubarak!

Inside of Women's Studies, we are going over Women in Islam. We are watching a movie called, "Not Without My Daughter".

The movie is about 2 married Americans. One is an Iranian and another a White, Christian Woman. They are married. The husband is a doctor and at work he gets racist comments about him being Iranian. The husband misses his family and wants to PERMANENTLY live in Iran and he wants to make his daughter Muslim. The wife objects to going to Iran. She feels it is dangerous because of the Islamic Revolution that took place a little earlier in Iran. The husband sweared on the Qur'an that everything will be alright and that he will protect him and his daughter and wife. They were ONLY supposed to go on a 2 week vacation. When they get there, the husband didn't validate the passport and flight stuff in time. He told his wife this. The wife was excited about coming back home in America. She didn't want to be in Iran. She disisted this notion of Iran and its country. The husband was furious and told her that he wanted his daughter to be muslim and that its his home and his faith is in Iran. His wife rebels about this and he slaps her. The family(his) turns on her when she tells them that her husband swore on the Qur'an about their safety and ect. The family just shunned her. So the husband prevented her from leaving the house and from using the phone. The wife tried getting calls, but couldn't use the phone. So her mother called and told her she needed to go to the Swiss Embassy in Tehran. THe wife sneaks there and is told that she must get written permission from her husband to leave the country because she married an Iranian Man and is legally a citizen now. So, she tries to leave the country somehow...The wife also doesn't like how the women are treated in Iran. She believes the country is backwards.

Please, I don't feel this is really accurate in terms of the people. I've read a book about post-islamic revolution in Iran, the people are nice and civilized. They just want Islam to be in their lives. I understand that. I hate how the movie percieves this "devout muslim husband" in a way that is far from the Qur'an or Sunnah. They percieve the people are brutal, mean, and rude.


I've traced my roots back to the Civil War (both father & mother) , but I am trying to see if any of my ancestors came over at the start of the American Revolution.

I am hoping I can become a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution. I

Any info or guidance would be most appreciated.

10 pts best answer


I was rejected in my post about another American revolution. The x-Marine asked a very good question and it was answered by the rejection of my answer. I can understand why it was as Liberals refuse to take responsibility for what they do. They are raised this way! Is it not strange we have so many Democrats in office and he poses that question? Now he knows who to blame and we see who got off and who was given our taxes! Those who gave to the Liberals got it easy or were given pardon. Liberals, whether parents or in our Government, hate truth and will always suppress it. Obama said he was not responsible for the guidance of his 13 year old daughter when he said she should have a right, beyond his wishes, to have an abortion at his age. I wonder how much Planned Parenthood gave to his election? More, where are his morals and duty as a parent? I was very surprised that so many voted race and not morals or what is right. What do you think. Should we allow to be told the truth or be allowed to be bigotted toward our own desires and say, we are not responsible for our children. We can even pass


Would we even be here? Would the daughters of the American revolution still be on boats off shore? Would that first group of settlers been sent back to Europe? If the indigenous people (the Indians) did not show mercy on the poor starving immigrants (the pilgrims) they would not have survived the first winter. They would not have lived to annihilate the Indian race and as a way of showing thanks for their help....drive them from their land.
or anywhere in the south for that matter and Stone...you are pretty much a shoe in for best answer
George, you sound like you were there. What the f are you taking about? Get a book.
Ingus, you couldn't drag me to Texas.
Face it people...you got no argument, no leg to stand on...you are wrong, Wrong then and wrong now.
Joel...you poor fellow, you are delusional, lay down guy....let's see if we can get that chip out of your head...don't worry we will get you back from the deceptive and clever hold evil has on you. We won't let you go without a fight Joel!


I am working on a booklet for the Daughters of the American Revolution and can't for the life of me, find their logo! It looks similar to a broach and looks like it has spokes. I have been to the dar.org website with no luck as they don't even have a email link to ask.
HELP!!! I need a logo.....


anyone knowing their 270 year history know they have no hearts, They have financed both sides of every war since the French Revolution. Supported genocides, assassinated U.S. Presidents, and have stood by letting millions die from hunger. This group of 300 families not only own the Federal Reserve Bank but the Bank of England, France, Germany, Italy and nearly every bank on earth. They have more cash than they could ever spend. They could forward the advancement of man kind in all areas and still never be denied anything they want.

Andrew Jackson labored 2 terms as president to rid us of this ruthless group and when asked on his death bed what he saw to be his greatest achievement he said "I killed the Bank" But in 1913 our congress gave this pit of the worst of humanity has to offer the control of our monetary system once again, congress gave then possession of all gold and silver that backed our dollar and also allowed them to print it. The IRS formed as a the Banks collection agent. In return our congress didn't have to go ask the ones who put them in office for funds. They now only had to borrow it from the bank cutting out the middle man,the American people.

The collateral these tyrants used was the labors of Americans. To prove this look at the back of the check you paid your taxes with. It doesn't say it was paid out to our government it says PAID TO THE FRB FOR INTREST OWED BY THE GOVERNMENT. Now at birth most of our mothers spelled our names with the first letter of our first and last name with upper case letters giving us our personal I. D. Now look at how your name is spelled on your driver license, your bank cards, and all your credit cards. All upper case letters.

The name your mother gave you makes you her son or daughter. The name our government and the banking system has given you has made you their slave, or their collateral and since entering the work force you slave close to 1/3 of your life paying off an on going loan that never ends. Now with the printing presses throwing out bills 24/7 without a dime to back it up what do you see for your children when they enter the work force?


The Catholic Church keeps "the name of every Protestant church member in the world" in a "big computer" in the Vatican for use in future persecutions.[1]


But the conspiracy is much broader than this, and it has been going on for a very long time. In the sixth century, for instance, Catholic leaders manipulated the Arabian tribesman Mohammed into creating the religion of Islam to use as a weapon against the Jews and to conquer Jerusalem for the pope.[2]


The Jesuits instigated the American Civil War, supporting the Confederate cause and seeking to undermine the Union. When they failed, they arranged the assassination of Abraham Lincoln.[3] Later, they formed the Ku Klux Klan.[4]


"Jesuits worked closely with Marx, Engels, Trotsky, Lenin, and Stalin" to create Communism, and it was "believed that soon . . . Communism would rise up as the new strong daughter of the Vatican."[5] It was Rome that instigated the Bolshevik Revolution and the murder of the czara��s family.[6] The Communist "liberation theology" movement also is a Vatican plot.[7]


The Nazi Holocaust of the 1940s was a Vatican-controlled attempt to exterminate Jews and heretics.[8] Further, "Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco were backed by the Vatican for the purpose of setting up a one-world government to usher in the a�?Millennial Kingdoma�� under Pope Pius XII."[9]


The Vatican conspiracy is so extensive that, through the Jesuits, Rome controls the Illuminati, the Council on Foreign Relations, international bankers, the Mafia, the Club of Rome, the Masons, and the New Age movement.[10]


The Jesuits created the Jehovaha��s Witnesses, Mormonism, Unity, Christian Science, and other religious groups.[11]


"Pope John Paul II has been a good Communist for many years"[12] and engineered a phony assassination attempt against himself in 1981 to shame Islam into warming relations with the Vatican, since the would-be killer was a Muslim.[13]
Oh i forgot to mention if you do then Welcome to the World of Chick Publications. Does this tell any one where Chris, Rene and other Catholic Haters get there education from.
Short and to the point your joking right? I mean just type Jack Chick into your search engine GEEZ...


I have some serious WASP lineage that I just found out about-like i have descendants from both the mayflower and the american revolution-and my relatives have been in organizations like the daughters of the american revolution, and had I wanted to, I could have been a debutante.

What do I do about it? I don't know if I want to be involved with all of that (also because I did not grow up in New York city and did not have a socialite upbringing..)

thanks in advance


What things will Ted Kennedy be remembered when he's gone?

1) cheating in college, twice getting caught
2) secretly financing IRA terrorists, to buy bombs and guns to murder innocent British citizens
3) his father, a gangster whose life of crime has financed the Kennedy clan, who has never earned a legitimate dollar through hard work
4) leaving a young girl to drown, not calling an ambulance with a phone nearby, instead checking into a hotel, to sober up
5) Bullying the authorities, to intimidate them from applying justice for his felony manslaughter, leaving the scene of a fatal accident, never spending a night in jail for a crime, you or I would have been given 20 years in prison
6) Bullying the Kopechne family to accept a meager settlement, to remain silent forever, for killing their daughter- intimidating the victim's family!
7) a lifetime of selfishness- adultrey, alcholosim, hard drug usaage, womanizing and being a horrific role model
8) legislation making American companies non-competitive with foreign competition, so high school kids could receive minimum wage increases
9) helping his nephew disparage and torement the victim of his nephew's rape of an innocent woman, using the biggest law firm in the country, to disparage the victim
10) helping to thwart justince, it took 30 years for Micheal Skakel (Shriver family) for being punished for murdering the teen age neighbor, who refused to be "Kennedy'd" by Michael Skakel; the Kennedy family spent a fortune defending this reprobate, to defy justice, bullying the authorities to do nothing for dozens of years for a murder
11) Leading the socialist revolution

Somehow, do you think liberals will sanitize Kenndy's sordid life, his multitude of crimes, his Irish gangster family and ill gotten gains, his abuse of power, his failure as a role model for his family and the country BECAUSE he carries the socialist flag?
SandyLynn- can't resist a Ted Kennedy question, can you?


1.What gave African Americans citizenship?
2.Which amendment ended slavery?
3.Which amendment gave the right to vote, regardless of race, except for two groups?
4.Why did the House of Representatives impeach Andrew Johnson?
5.Which of the following was true about Johnsona��s plan for the Reconstruction?
6.What was the order that Sherman issued that gave newly freed slaves land?
7.According to the rumor, how many acres were freed slaves supposed to receive after slavery was abolished?
8.Laws designed in 1865 and 1866 that kept blacks in the South from being as free as American citizens.
9.Who was the president of the Confederacy?
10.Who was the leader of the Union army?
11.What was the executive order that freed all of the slaves in the regions in the South?
12.Who was the general who gave the city of Savannah to the President as a Christmas present?
13.Andrew Johnson was a member of which political party?
14.Name 2 causes for the Civil War:
15.Who is the group that first votes to impeach, and formally charge?
16.Who was the leader of the Radical Republicans?
17.Who was the first/last state to get readmitted to the Union?
18.Who were/was the Freedmana��s Bureau/Scalawags/Carpetbaggers
a.What did they have in common?
b.What was different?
WEST QUEST
19.Define Manifest Destiny:
20.Name 2 major events that affected Manifest Destiny:
21.Why was Americaa��s belief in Manifest Destiny a problem in the west?
22.The Homestead Act awarded __________ acres for $______. The only condition was that the land had to be improved within ______ years.
23.What is a city that gets a sudden burst of economic or population growth called?
24.Name 3 states that gained statehood as a result of the Gold Rush
25.What inventions helped farmers on the plains?
26.Why was cattle ranching profitable?
27.What was the purpose of long drives?
28.What was the Chisholm Trail? What was connected?
29.What did American cowhands learn from vaqueros?
30.Why did crime in the Wild Wild West emerge?
31.What is vigilante justice?
32.Why do long drives come to an end?
33.Who were the Whitmans?
34.What was the starting point for emigrants?
35.How long was the trip?
IMMIGRATION AND INDUSTRIAL REVOLUTION
36.Who were the immigrants in the first wave of immigration?
37.Who made up the 2nd wave of immigration?
38.Push vs. pull reasons that immigrants came to America.
39.What was the name of the railroad company that employed Chinese immigrants?
40.The famous court case involving the Chinese laundry owners.
41.Who was the group on the west coast that was considered to be anti-Chinese?
42.Before Ellis Island, where were immigrants processed?
43.When did Ellis Island open?
44.Why did Angel Island close?
45.What are coaching letters?
46.What did Gam Saan mean?
47.What are paper sons and paper daughters?
48.The process when a minority group adopts the customs and attitudes of the majority culture is called

49.What were considered to be dangerous diseases- and would be grounds for deportation?

50.What was the name of the law that restricted certain Chinese immigrants from entering the US?
a.Who was allowed in?
b.When was it created?
51.Definition of the Industrial Revolution:
52.Who was the first to teach the Americans about factories?
53.What was the first product to be produced by the new machines?
54.What were the two important textile inventions that replaced human labor?
55.Where was the first textile mills built?
56.Who invented interchangeable parts?
57.What guarantees an inventor legal protection for his invention?
58.What was the manufacturing technique that created steel called?
59.What did Samuel Morse create?
60.What did Thomas Edison develop?
61.What did Alexander Graham Bell invent?
62.Where were these inventions first displayed?
63.What is a patent?
64.What was the first city to use streetcars?
65.What is a tenement?
66.What is a slum?
67.Name 3 unsanitary and 3 dangerous conditions for people living in tenements.
68.Who was Jane Addams?
69.What is a political machine?
STRIKES AND MILLIONAIRES
70.What is a robber baron?
71.What does AFL stand for?
72.A business controlled by multiple investors that own stock in a company is called

73. A person that wants to abolish government all together is called

74.A person that wants all members of society to be equal owners in business is called

75. What did the RR Strike, the Pullman Strike, and the Homestead Strike all have in common?

76.What are the advantages of a corporation?

77.Millionaires: Vanderbilt, Rockefeller, and Carnegie.

a.Know place of birth, source of wealth, philanthropy, unusual facts, and major accomplishments.
78.Identify the following people:
a.______ Carnegiea��s 2nd in command at Homestead Mill.
b.______ Led the Pullman Strike.
c.______ Popular labor leader in Chicago.
d.______ Wrote rags to riches stor


I have information - documents but just getting "writer's block" need help in answering the question what am I going to accomplish by researching my family ancestry. I have a friend who was able to become part of DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution). I myself am happy to LEARN about my history, but I guess a small goal to meet would make me feel like I am "on-track"- BTW I am of Hispanic descent or that is what I have found

Also looking for a sounding board to help me get past my "blockage" is there a group that I can contact to discuss questions or maybe to help validate my findings.


homeschooled daughter? thanks so much!


Thanks for the help


DAR-- Daughters of American Revolution
This happened in 1939... I need a 200 word article so please have a lot of information and a good source!


Give me a good source that lets me know this answer. I need 200 words for a newspaper article... Thanks!


I have a lot of homework can someone please reword this for me into 3 paragraphs?

Randolph was born on August 10, 1753 to the influential Randolph family in Williamsburg, Virginia. He was educated at the College of William and Mary. After graduation he began reading law with his father John Randolph and uncle, Peyton Randolph. In 1775, with the start of the American Revolution, Randolph's father remained a Loyalist and returned to Britain; Edmund Randolph remained in America where he joined the Continental Army as aide-de-camp to General George Washington.
Upon the death of his uncle Peyton Randolph in October of 1775 Randolph returned to Virginia to act as executor of the estate, and while there was elected as a representative to the Virginia Convention. He would go on to serve as mayor of Williamsburg, and then as the first Attorney General of the United States under the newly-formed government.
He was married on August 29, 1776 to Elizabeth Nicholas (daughter of Robert C. Nicholas), and had a total of six children.
Randolph died at age 60, suffering from paralysis, September 12, 1813.


I was nominated for an award, and my school's counselor said that I would defiantly get the award. DAR is Daughters of American Revolution.
can you provide pics?


I am eligible because of an ancestor but do not know where to begin.


Blood Stripe





Prologue



When a man or woman goes to war, their families go with Them. a�� Michelle Obama


For hundreds of years Americans have marched off to war. Starting with the American Revolution up to the conflict today in Iraq and Afghanistan. This book will focus primarily on the war in Vietnam, and the families that survived with the returning Veteran. Only because it is the experience I know, as the son of a career Marine. Vietnam offered Americans a unique perspective during this time. It was the first televised war in History.
Most nights during that conflict, a well known Anchorman Walter Cronkite would open the nightly news with the numbers of dead and wounded, it would be prominently displayed on the television screen and he would read them, then proceed with the headlines of the day.
As a young boy with a father in Vietnam, I may have not showed the concern the moment merited, but I did pay attention, and I watched as my mother also sat with me. a�?Do you think dad was killed or wounded mom?a�? I would ask. For some I thought he was fighting Germans. I thought Germans were always the enemy, the old black and white John Wayne movies may have played a part with my innocent perspective of that.
American servicemen and women of all wars sacrifice, they have agreed, if need be, to give their lives in order to preserve the freedom and democracy of our society. Most have no idea what military life will be like until they enlist. Some have families they take with them to their duty stations, others marry and have children during their tours. Not much has been said about the families left behind, when the man or woman receives orders to deploy to a war zone or foreign duty station. During this unpopular war veterans came home and were not treated as victors. They were not given parades and airport welcomes and marching bands. In some cases they were spat upon and received some of the most vile insults one can endure.
Most veterans may have been greeted by families, then tried to acclimate themselves back into a civil society. Some veterans saw things no human should have to see, endured pain no human should have to experience. Injured physically and sometimes mentally they suffered. Many did so in silence and kept it to themselves.
They came home to wives and children that accepted them home. Children one or two years old that did not recognize their parent. Wives that had not touched their husbands or head the sound of his voice for over a year, or a dad that had seen only pictures of his son or daughter before the introduction at home.
That Soldier, Sailor, Airman, or Marine, would want to return to some normalcy, and get back to the job of raising a family. This would no doubt create problems with a wife that had been the head of the household for a great deal of time, and now would be the second mate.
I remember being at the airport with my mom. I was tired, and it was very late at night. I knew my dad was coming home and I wanted to be part of it. My mom ran when she saw him, hugging him as he kissed her. I ran to him and he picked me up. In his crisp Marine uniform he piked me up and I threw my arms around him. I could smell a mix of alcohol and cologne on him, that was fine for me. His buddies began shaking hands and saying goodbye's to each other, the crowd started to thin, and they put me in the back seat of the car. I remembered little else until morning.
What I woke up to is the story I will tell, a story of love, confusion, and sometimes even abuse.
Many of the wives and children lived with the effects of war. Long after the protesters had dropped their signs, and the North Vietnamese took control of that country. Dependants of these Veterans lived with, and supported them. The Veteran has numerous, although sometimes questionable resources of which they can get relief. The Veterans Administration provides services long after the uniform has been hung in the closet for good. With the exception of the rather embarrassing exposure at the Veterans Hospital in Washington DC, the services have improved over the years.
This story will not be told from the perspective of a wife, but as the son of a Marine. A Marine that served this country for twenty years. Traveling across the country from city to city, wherever the Corps had decided to place him. I came along, with my family. This is the story of the Military Dependant, or brat, as some like to refer to them. I like thousands of other children over the years, lived a different life t


I need this info to prove bloodline lineage for my 82 yr old mother who wants to join Daughters of the American Revolution. I am trying to avoid an expensive Petition to the Court of Record. If I can do it using the new law, that would be better. I need the birth certificate mainly to prove her true birth parents in 1865. The adoption took place in Genesseee Co, NY in 1866. I have verified that the record has been located. Whom do I initially contact to just get a copy of the birth certificate so I can use it to gain membership into DAR? This relative is the only link to the old bloodlines going back to supporters of the Am Revolution. Has anyone else done this. I do not live in NY - rather DC so not sure if this will cause a problem since I am not a resident of the state where te adoption took place. But I am a blood relative of the adoptee. Any guidance would be most appreciated.


I know that to be fully a member you must be 18

but my mom's friend who works there said that I can join and go to the meetings and do community service(i am 13). But on the website it doesnt say anything about it


Last Minute Help please.
matching these words to the correct Name.
also, give websites or where you got the info as well.
thanks so much!

here are teh words.
A. Anthony Wayne
B. John Barry
C. Molly Pitcher
D. Robert Morris
E. Haym Solomon
F. Ben Franklin
G. Samuel Wetherill
H. Sarah Bache
I. Betsy Ross


and each sentence

1. Raised money for the war effort

2. Daughter of Ben Franklin; organized Philadelphia women to sew clothing for soldiers.

3.Perhaps Pennsylvania's greatest general; fought in Canada and Ticonderoga, Brandywine, and with General Washington.

4. Made the first official flag for the United States.

5.Helped to get Holland to give large loans to aid the new nation.

6.Set up Pennsylvania navy; later became head of the entire United States Navy.

7.Helped secure French assistance and loans; helped complete Treaty of Paris.
8.Woman who aided the Revolutionary cause; fought in the Battle of Monmouth upon death of her husband.

9.Made uniforms for soldiers in his textile mills

please put each letter with the corrct number thanks so much,
if you need help with math ima pro at it! :) :)


Its for my history class. im doing my report on Alexander Hamilton, oh, and im in 7th grade. Do You Think I'll Get an A?


When we think of Alexander hamilton, what do we think of? A ten dollar bill? No, Hamilton was not a president, but he was so much more then the guy on the ten.
Alexander Hamilton was born in approximately 1757 in the West Indian Island of Nevis. His parents were Rachel Lavien and James Hamilton. It is said that he spent most of his youth as a clerk; and that in 1772, he was sent to New York by his guardian, and the merchant, Nicholas Cruger.
Hamilton was originally supposed to enroll at the New Jersey college, but when denied permission to accelerate the program of his studies, he was enrolled at the college in New York. In 1774-75, Hamilton, who was not yet twenty, entered the growing disagreement between the American colonies and the British Government by writing many pamphlets filled with ideas of rebellion and rights obtained from the philosopher John Locke.
Hamiltona��s desire was action, so he enlisted in the militia and fought in battles around New York City. His zeal led him to George Washingtona��s attention. Hamilton served with Washington for about four years. In time, Hamilton led a large number of New York troops at the Battle of Yorktown in October 1781.
In December of 1780, Hamilton married Elizabeth Schuyler, daughter of the wealthy General Philip Schuyler. This connection placed Hamilton in the center of New York society. Well before his 30th birthday, Hamilton had a well-known military career, knew most of the leaders of the American Revolution, and was recognized as one of the leading lawyers in the country.
In 1782, Hamilton was elected a member of the Continental Congress.
With John Jay and James Madison, Hamilton wrote a series of papers urging the people of New York to approve the new constitution. His essays became classic statements of his political philosophy of strong leadership in the public interest. In June to July of 1788, Hamilton and his allies defeated the previously in control anti-federal forces in the state.
Hamilton was the obvious choice to be the first secretary of the treasury under the new constitution. He proposed to pay all of the nationa��s debts By the time he retired from the Treasury Department in 1795, he had established the administrative and policy foundations of the new government.
On leaving the government Hamilton resumed a busy law practice. He continued to have a strong influence in the public councils, however. Disappointed in President John Adam's erratic leadership, Hamilton opposed Adams's reelection in 1800. When it appeared, however, that Aaron Burr might win the presidency over Jefferson, Hamilton unhesitatingly threw his support to Jefferson, whose policies he scorned, rather than to Burr, whom he regarded as a man without principles.
This frustrated Burr, so he challenged Hamilton to a duel. The two men fought at Weehawken, New Jersey on July 11, 1804. Hamilton fired into the air, but Burr took direct aim. Hamilton fell very wounded and died the next day in New York. He was buried in Trinity churchyard, New York City. He left his wife and seven children heavily in debt, but friends soon paid off the debts. Hamilton was mourned by his countrymen as one who had committed his life to the nation's growth in freedom and success.
So Remember, Hamilton played an important role in our society, and he was so much more than the guy on the ten.
When I put Jefferson in there, i meant adams, so ignore the jefferson part. I forgot to fix it...lol


at this point i am stuck the question is for each term that we give, write a sentence explaining its significance but i cant come up with nothing but the same thing as the definition so if yu have some different sentences can yu put then down please and only serious people not idiots that are going to play cause i am not joking around

1)faction-means dissenting groups of people

2)marquis de LaFayette aristocratic hero of two worlds who fought alongside george washington in the american revolution

3)olympe de gouges-a journalist, demanded equal rights in her declaration of the rights of women and the female citizen

4)maria antoinette-daughter of maria theresa and brother of joseph. the queen lived a life of great pleasure and extravagance,and this led to further public unrest

5)emigre-person who flees his or her country for political reason's

6)sans-culotte-working-class man or woman who made the french revolution more radical

7)republic-is system of government in which officials are choosen by the people

8)jacobins-member of a radical political club during the french revolution


This is my essay for the Daughters on the American Revolution, with the title, America, Land of Oppertunity. it had to deal with something that happened in america. I was the only person in my class to pick this topic. Everyone else picked immigration. Tell me if this is good or not. Its supposed to be 300-500 words. Im 13 and in 7th grade. [i know that info is not necessary. :P thanks so much!!!!

America, Land of Opportunity
September, 14th 1910
(A Small Farm in Ohio)


My name is Annie and I am a 12 year old. I live on a farm with my mother and father. This is my story of my determination towards women gaining the right to vote in the United States.
It was fall again already. I just couldna��t believe it as a walked up to the old school house. It still looked the same as it did before summer. The school house was small, old and white. It was in very bad shape, but we still had class in the old school house. I was right on time, which was not usual for me. I grabbed a seat right next to my two best friends, Sue and Beth. Sue had grown a few inches over the summer. Beth had stayed her old, small self. I had been friends with Sue and Beth ever since I met them. The three of us had many things in common. I could tell both of them anything on my mind. Our teacher, Ms. Maple walked into the classroom. She was an older woman, but was very kindhearted and gracious. She told everyone in the class to take a seat.
a�?Hello everyone! I am so glad to see you all again.a�? Ms. Maple exclaimed.
a�?The first thing we will be learning this school year will be government and laws in the United States.a�?
I was glad that we were beginning with this subject. Learning about laws and government was very exciting to me.
30 MINUTES LATER
a�?I will see you all tomorrow! Bye everyone!
I began walking out of the school house with Sue and Beth. I couldna��t believe what we had just learned on our first day. Women cannot do anything in this country! I walked slower as I was thinking.
a�?Sue! Beth! Wait for me!a�? I yelled.
a�?What?a�? Sue and Beth said in unison.
a�?Werena��t you two listening to what Ms. Maple said? Women cana��t vote in America! Isna��t this awful! Why arena��t you two as upset as I am?a�?
a�?Well, women are supposed to be cooking and cleaning, not out voting!a�? Sue yelled back.
a�?I am going to change this! It is unfair for us women!a�?
a�?Alright Annie, whatever you say. See you tomorrow!a�? Beth said.
a�?Bye.a�? I said in a sad tone.
10 YEARS LATER
I was standing in at a protest outside city hall beside my best friends, Sue and Beth. I knew they would eventually agree with me. My husband, John supported me throughout the whole process of gaining womena��s right to vote. Women had finally won their right to vote in Ohio on June 16, 1919. This was one of the most fulfilling moments of my lifetime. I had contributed to the United States creating the Nineteenth Amendment, one day at a time. I knew this would be a fight us women would be able to win.
Thanks so much for the help! I appriciate the advice!


This is my essay for the daughters on the American Revolution. it had to deal with something that happened in america. i was the only person in my class to pick this topic. everyone else picked immigration :P thanks so much!!!!
America, Land of Opportunity
September, 14th 1910
(A Small Farm in Ohio)


My name is Annie and I am a 12 year old. I live on a farm with my mother and father. This is my story of my determination towards women gaining the rights to vote in the United States.
It was fall again already. I just couldna��t believe it as a walked up to the old school house. It still looked the same as it did before summer. The school house was small, old and white. It was in very bad shape, but we still had class in the old school house. I was right on time, which was not usual for me. I grabbed a seat right next to my two best friends, Sue and Beth. Sue had grown a few inches over the summer. Beth had stayed her old, small self. I had been friends with Sue and Beth ever since I met them. The three of us had many things in common. I could tell both of them anything on my mind. Our teacher, Ms. Maple walked into the classroom. She was an older woman, but was very kindhearted and gracious. She told everyone in the class to take a seat.
a�?Hello everyone! I am so glad to see you all again.a�? Ms. Maple exclaimed.
a�?The first thing we will be learning this school year will be government and laws in the United States.a�?
I was glad that we were beginning with this subject. Learning about laws and government was very exciting to me.
30 MINUTES LATER
a�?I will see you all tomorrow! Bye everyone!
I began walking out of the school house with Sue and Beth. I couldna��t believe what we had just learned on our first day. Women cannot do anything in this country! I walked slower as I was thinking.
a�?Sue! Beth! Wait for me!a�? I yelled.
a�?What?a�? Sue and Beth said in unison.
a�?Werena��t you two listening to what Ms. Maple said? Women cana��t vote in America! Isna��t this awful! Why arena��t you two as upset as I am?a�?
a�?Well, women are supposed to be cooking and cleaning, not out voting!a�? Sue yelled back.
a�?I am going to change this! It is unfair for us women!a�?
a�?Alright Annie, whatever you say. See you tomorrow!a�? Beth said.
a�?Bye.a�? I said in a sad tone.
10 YEARS LATER
I was standing in at a protest outside city hall beside my best friends, Sue and Beth. I knew they would eventually agree with me. My husband, John supported me throughout the whole process of gaining womena��s rights to vote. Women had finally won their right to vote in Ohio on June 16, 1919. This was one of the most fulfilling moments of my lifetime. I had contributed to the United States creating the Nineteenth Amendment, one day at a time. I knew this would be a fight us women would be able to win.







its supposed to be 300-500 words


i cant figure out what 2 draw!!!! a couple ideas wld be very helpful-
:))


Ok so I'm doing a report for Daughters of the American Revolution Essay Contest and wanted to know. PLEEZ help!

thanks! --Amber :)


I've been looking at oxy and i was just trying to see what my chances are of getting into in the school :) :) :)

My school- Chicago, private school with no rankings.
ACT score- 24 (i just retook it, i know its pretty low right now)
GPA- 3.5 (unranked) out of 4.0
Activities- Student Council President (Co-Secretary, Junior Class VP, Sophomore Class Secretary) , Editor-in-Chief of the Literary Magazine (Lower/Middle School Editor), Peer Mentor, Student Volunteer, Student Ambassador, ACT Leader (service group), Dance for Life (raise money for AIDS awareness), Interfaith Jamboree, Writing Center (tutor kids in writing), Spanish Club, Church fellowship group

Academic Honors- High Honor Roll, National Honor Society, National Quill and Scroll Society, Chicago Metro History Fair State Finalist, Daughters of American Revolution Citzenship Award, Prudential Spirit of the Community Award (certificate of merit for service)

Summer Programs- University of California- Los Angeles People to People Leadership Summit, University of California- Berkeley National Youth Leadership Forum, Community Hospital Volunteer in a Pathology Lab

Classes I have taken/are taking- Lab Science Honors, English I honors, Journalism, World History, Geometry, Spanish II, Computer Applications, Health, Phys. Ed, Spanish III, Biology Honors, English II Honors, Algebra2/Trig, Foundations of Art&Music, History Lab, AP United States History, English III Honors, Political Science 1 and 2, Chemistry Honors, Frontiers in Science, College Algebra/Trig, AP Government, AP Literature, AP Statistics, Geography of the Developed World/Undeveloped World, French I, and Speech.


I need to know how to do a bibliography of a website.
also if i did a bibliography thing for yahoo.com would i just use www.yahoo.com or the whole site that used after i searched it


she needs to explain the underlying causes and the direct causes of the revolutionary war as part of this paper. I do not understand what the difference is. Will someone please give me a few examples of both in the american revolution?



After the Civil War/War Between the States, women not only continued to lead the fight for improving all kinds of living conditions, but the took an increasing interest in public affairs. They proved themselves capable leader of the movements they supported. Clara Barton, who had helped the sick and wounded in the Civil War/War Between the States, founded the American Red Cross in 1881. She was for many years its able and energetic leader. Women like Susan B. Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton were leaders of the National Woman's Suffrage Association. They overcame ridicule and strong opposition in their efforts to win equal rights for women.

The growth of industry also helped to change the old beliefs about women's rights. As factories and businesses multiplied, more and more opportunities outside the home were opened to women. The wages women received in these jobs gave them more freedom. New industries also turned on labori??saving aids to help women in their homes -such aids as gas and electric stoves, vacuum cleaners, electric refrigerators, and washing machines. Housework became easier, and women had more time for interests outside their homes.

Many colleges, formerly limited to men, now accepted women students. A number of women's colleges were founded. Because the opportunities for college education were greater, women were able to enter the different professions.

Women Win Suffrage

Changes such as those we have mentioned made it seem less and less sensible to deny women the right to vote. By 1900, four states west of the Mississippi River had approved woman suffrage (they had granted women the right to vote). Leaders in the battle for women's rights had to fight long and hard to bring suffrage to all American women. These leaders wrote newspaper articles and gave lectures. They even paraded before the White House to awaken the public to the need for this reform. At length, the Nineteenth Amendment (1920) was added to the Constitution, extending the right of suffrage to women. Women in all parts of the country voted in the election of 1920. Since that time they have taken more and more interest in government. Women today not only vote, but hold many offices in our national, state, and local governments.

{The periodical, ]"The Woman Rebel", told the working woman that there is no freedom for her until she has this knowledge which will enable her to say if she will become a mother or not. The fewer children she had to cook, wash and toil for, the more leisure she would have to read, think and develop. That freedom demands leisure, and her first freedom must be in her right of herself over her own body; the right to say what she will do with it in marriage and out of it; the right to become a mother, or not, as she desires and sees fit to do; that all these rights swing around the pivot of the means to prevent conception, and every woman had the right to have this knowledge if she wished ita��

I resolved, after a visit to France, where children are loved and wanted and cared for and educated, to devote my time and effort in giving this information to women who applied for it. I resolved to defy the law, not behind a barricade of law books and technicalities, but by giving the information to the workers directly in factory and workshop...

(Source: Margaret Sanger, "Comstockery in America," International Socialist Review)

The Industrial Revolution was dawning in the United States. At Lowell, Massachusetts, the construction of a big cotton mill began in 1821. It was the first of several that would be built there in the next 10 years. The machinery to spin and weave cotton into cloth would be driven by water power. All that the factory owners needed was a dependable supply of labor to tend the machines.

As most jobs in cotton factories required neither great strength nor special skills, the owners thought women could do the work as well as or better than men. In addition, they were more compliant. The New England region was home to many young, single farm girls who might be recruited. But would stern New England farmers allow their daughters to work in factories? The great majority of them would not. They believed that sooner or later factory workers would be exploited and would sink into hopeless poverty. Economic "laws" would force them to work harder and harder for less and less pay.

The Lowell Experiment

How, then, were the factory owners able to recruit farm girls as laborers? They did it by building decent houses in which the girls could live. These houses were supervised by older women who made sure that the girls lived by strict moral standards. The girls were encouraged to go to church, to read, to write and to attend lectures. They saved part of their earnings to help their families at home or to use when they got married.

The young factory workers did not earn high wages; the average pay was about $3.50 a week. But in those times, a half-dozen eggs cost five cent


The American Revolutionary war, a conflict that conclusively separated what was to become the United States from Great Britain, lasted from 1775 until 1783 and altered American society vastly with regard to political, social and economic conditions.
The Revolutionary War deeply affected the political outlook of the United States in many ways. After the issuing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776, the Thirteen Colonies of North America were thrust into a war with the strongest empire in the world at that time. Many people, however, did not support this war. They were known as Tories, or Loyalists, and their opinions often placed them in precarious positions with the Whigs, who favored the revolution. Many of them fled to England, while others fought along side the British, facing the seizure of their property and punishment of being tarred and feathered. The war also proliferated the roles of women, as they were required to tackle the tasks previous handled by the men who made up the army fighting the British. Some women, such as Deborah Sampson, went as far as impersonating a man in order to fight for the Continental Army. After the war ended and the Treaty of Paris was signed in 1783, some states passed laws that gave women the right to vote, but these laws were soon revoked. Other state legislature included the Statutes at Large of Virginia, which allowed religious freedom. This was popular with the large religious diversity of the United States, and led for more support to separation of church and state. People such as James Madison, and other Federalists claimed that the government must have the power to control the people and, most importantly, itself, and therefore, supported ratification of the Constitution. Other political changes included the controversy over the economic future of the county, represented through the Jefferson/Hamilton debate over agriculture and commerce, republicanism versus democracy, a decline the value of currency, caused by over printing in order to pay of personal war debts, and the Articles of Confederation, which failed to give the federal government the powers to control state governments, tax citizens, settle disputes, raise an army, or issue a uniform currency, to name a few. The effects of the Revolution permanently altered the political standings of the United States, much like it did to the economical situation. (Documents A,B,D,F,G,I)

The economy of the U.S. was also greatly affected by the Revolutionary War. The war brought a need for many things. Labor was provided by women taking the places of fighting men and supplies, such as food or guns, were sold to the state governments in return for certificates that could be redeemed later for money. When short on supplies, most army seized the property of Loyalists, or Tories, for their support of the British. When the war concluded in 1783, several Native Americans tribes attempted to extend good graces towards the United States government, hoping for a peaceful relationship and continued trade. Now that the U.S. was independent, it was also no longer bound by the mercantile system, and there was much confusion concerning the economical future of the country, debating whether it should be based on an agricultural or a commercial system. Also, because of the amount of national and state debt, governments began to print large amounts of currency, which, in turn, lowered the overall value of the currency. After the signing of the Constitution in 1787, a few states and territories banned slavery and involuntary servitude in their territory, except in the punishment of crimes. This had an effect on the three-fifths compromise, which allowed slaves to count as 3/5tha��s of a free man for taxation and representation. Also, in 1792, the invention of the cotton gin created a new cash crop out of cotton. Much like the political and social aspects, the economical situation was changed considerably by the Revolutionary War. (Documents A,B,C,E,F,G,H)

The social problems faced by the United States were exceptionally increased due to the Revolution. Women, who stepped up during the war by taking the place of men in the workforce, became more interested in the idea of suffrage and equal rights. The Daughters of Liberty were the forefront in the female social front. They had a significant impact on the colonies, and later the U.S. Figures like Molly Wallace defended the appropriateness of public appearances by women, and showed that the a�?domestic situationa�? was fit to change. In addition to women, Native Americans petitioned for better relations, hoping that now that the British rule had been abolished, that a new and more hospitable relationship would form between the two groups. Other social changes included the greater appreciation of the average farmer. In 1792, the invention of the cotton gin promoted a greater need for slaves. Slaves, who, before the Revolution, were accustomed to the idea of slavery, began to questio


Hey, so I am a senior currently in high school in Chicago and I just wanted to see what my changes of getting into USC.
I am sixteen and I think I want to go for their pharmacy program although I know i first have to get into the university!

My school- Chicago, private school with no rankings.
ACT score- 24 (i know it's pretty low)
GPA- 3.5 (unranked) out of 4.0
Activities- Student Council President (Co-Secretary, Junior Class VP, Sophomore Class Secretary) , Editor-in-Chief of the Literary Magazine (Lower/Middle School Editor), Peer Mentor, Student Volunteer, Student Ambassador, ACT Leader (service group), Dance for Life (raise money for AIDS awareness), Interfaith Jamboree, Writing Center (tutor kids in writing), Spanish Club, Church fellowship group

Academic Honors- High Honor Roll, National Honor Society, National Quill and Scroll Society, Chicago Metro History Fair State Finalist, Daughters of American Revolution Citzenship Award, Prudential Spirit of the Community Award (certificate of merit for service)

Summer Programs- University of California- Los Angeles People to People Leadership Summit, University of California- Berkeley National Youth Leadership Forum, Community Hospital Volunteer in a Pathology Lab
Classes I have taken/are taking- Lab Science Honors, English I honors, Journalism, World History, Geometry, Spanish II, Computer Applications, Health, Phys. Ed, Spanish III, Biology Honors, English II Honors, Algebra2/Trig, Foundations of Art&Music, History Lab, AP United States History, English III Honors, Political Science 1 and 2, Chemistry Honors, Frontiers in Science, College Algebra/Trig, AP Government, AP Literature, AP Statistics, Geography of the Developed World/Undeveloped World, French I, and Speech.


can you include the Gettysburg address as part of your essay?

It is 247 words and that is half of my essay but I plan on putting in more so I was just wondering if I could =]


who were Daughters of the American Revolution? Thanks!


We could use $7,000,000,000 to become energy independent. We could use the money in a brand new energy bill. The new energy bill would help guide a process that would pay for research and design, update infrastructure, give subsidies to renewable energy companies subsidies to farmers, and small business grants for start-up green energy contractors and the companies who would manufacture the equipment necessary for conversion. The bill would help create thousands of new small businesses which would hire millions of Americans, and help grow existing green energy companies.

I called for Obama, my candidate, to return to congress 2 1/2 weeks ago (before McCain) and it fell on def ears. Now im asking him to change his tone on the bailout bill and call for a new energy bill instead. Im right. Dont doubt it. The Question is.. are the people in Obama's inner circle capable of thinking freely or are they focused on bailing out their own "401k's" and other investments? Im gonna vote for Obama, because his core principles are the same as mine. His policies are for the most part innovative and progressive. But he needs to start thinking independently from his advisers. He needs to start listening to the people who matter. Me.. im as middle class as it gets. Im a sub-urban 25 year old white guy with a 2 year old daughter and a dog. Im in real estate, im losing money, I cant pay my bills, and my clients cant get credit. Im willing to sacrifice my career in order to stop this bailout.

Americans have lived off of credit for to long. We dont even remember what it's like to save money and pay cash for our homes and cars like our parents and grandparents did. Because of our credit addiction the dollar is inflated and the price of commodities has sky-rocketed. We need to become an ownership society again, not slowly progress into a bank dependent one. After almost 100 years of living off of a credit system which creates money out of thin air, our federal government and the federal reserve (which is no more federal than fed-ex) have proven that the credit system is flawed. Promoting ownership and reverting to the old monetary system which backed our money with gold bullion is the right way to run our country and is whats best for our people.

Because of our flaws as a people. Because of our flaws as a country, this generation, the most selfish generation must step up and allow themselves to suffer. We may have to go head first into a depression, but just like the great depression we will come out a stronger, better country than we were before. Sacrifice by our forefathers is what made our country great. Whether you like it or not, whether you are able to admit it to yourself, you know as well as I do that this country has lost it's way. How will history remember us? Its time to stand up, stop whining, and start being Americans. If it calls for social uprising we must meet it. If it calls for revolution we must revolt. If it calls for sacrifice we must suffer. Sadly, I believe from the bottom of my heart, this will never happen. Our federal government has divided, manipulated, and bribed our people for too long. The violent and non violent protests that made our people strong for over 200 years ended with a thud some time before I was born in the early 1980's. My generation is silent, oppressed, and absorbed by digital media. We are weak, lazy, and inebriated. This may be the end of the American dream. What would the great society of the 1950's have to say if they knew what a fat, lazy people we have become?




American woman residing in Los Angeles area gets unexpectedly gets pregnant with a man, Iranian refugee (naturalized US Citizen) who moved from Iran to LA California, shortly after the Iranian revolution in 1979, or the early 1980a��s as a small child. He has never been back since.

Would an American woman have a problem with the following?

He will not allow his baby daughter to reside outside the Los Angeles area (other than vacation at mothera��s request). He wants to be part of her life, not just a check (child support) every month. He indicates it is too dangerous for your daughter and him to go to Iran, for the same reason that Reza Pahlavi, Crown Prince of Iran cannot go back there. He wants his daughter to attend special schools, schools that will teach her Arabic, Persian and English. Have her learn Iranian history/Muslim culture, and raised in the Iran exile community in LA, but will allow her to be raised a catholic or protestant or even Jewish.

The book Not with out my daughter is still in your mind.



I am a Canadian, but even though many of my high school classmates seem to be more attracted to American politics and the "Obama revolution", I still find Canada politics more interesting.

There is less gossip mentality in Canadian politics, and rarely does a candidate's family get dragged into a political campaign unlike in the USA where sex and gossip scandals run rampant (Sarah Palin's daughter is pregnant?).

As much as I dislike both Dion (for his energy price-inflating carbon tax) and Harper (for failing to deliver a clean government), I still tend to find Canadian politics more in tune with policy-debate rather than personal debate.


Anyone here have thoughts?


To the stats:

GPA: 4.7672
Class Rank: 2/303

SATs:
Math - 720
Crit. Reading - 770
Writing - 670

I'm rigorously studying for the October SAT's to try and boost the pathetically weak Math and Writing.

SAT II:
Math 1: 740
US History: 740
Chemistry: 800

AP: 5s on Chemistry, European History, and US History

My schedule this year consists of all AP and CHS classes

Honors/Extracurriculars:
-Varsity Swimming
-Rhythm Section Leader in Jazz Band
-National Honor Society
-National Society of High School Scholars
-Outstanding Work in American History Award from The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution
-Second Place Winner in the Daughters of the American Revolution Award for Excellence in American History
-Top 100 in the Pittsburgh National Vocabulary Contest
-Recipient of Rochester Institute of Technologya��s Excellence in Computing Medal
-Runner-up in Outstanding Asian-American Student in Pittsburgh
-Model UN Student Leader
-Science Club
-Guitar Club
-Medical Explorers Program at University of Pittsburgh
-Interned at the McGowan Institute of Regenerative Medicine (wrote a research paper with a professor at Pitt)
-Volunteered over 300 hours at the local hospital

Well, guys, do you think I have a reasonable shot at Cornell? If not, could you recommend any other schools that might be a good match for pre-med?


What's the D.A.R? I know it stands for Daughters of the American Revolution, but what do they do? Is it real? On Gilmore Girls, Emily is always talking about that.


Flight to the South Pole

1 Thanksgiving Day, November 28th, brought what we wanted. At noon, the Geological Party radioed a final weather report: "Unchanged. Perfect visibility. No clouds anywhere." Harrison finished with his balloon runs, Haines with his weather charts. The sky was still somewhat overcast, and the surface wind from the east southeast. Haines came into the library, his face grave. Together, we went out for a walk and a last look at the weather. What he said exactly I have forgotten, but it was in effect: "If you don't go now, you may never have another chance as good as this." And that was that.

2 The mechanics, Bubier, Roth and Demas, went over the plane for the last time, testing everything with scrupulous care. A line of men passed five-gallon cans of gasoline to several men standing on the wing, who poured them into the wing tanks. Another line fed the stream of gear which flowed into the plane. Black weighed each thing before passing it on to McKinley and June, who were stowing the stuff in the cabin. Hanson went over the radio equipment. With de Ganahl, I made a careful check of the sextant and the watches and chronometers, which were among the last things put aboard. For days, de Ganahl and I had nursed the chronometers, checking them against the time tick broadcast every night from the United States. We knew their exact loss or gain.

3 The total weight was approximately 15,000 pounds.

4 Haines came up with a final report on the weather. "A twenty-mile wind from the south at 2,000 feet." I went into my office and picked up a flag weighted with a stone from Floyd Bennett's grave. It seemed fitting that something connected with the spirit of this noble friend, who stood with me over the North Pole, on May 9th, 1926, should rest as long as stone endures at the bottom of the world.

5 There were handshakes all around, and at 3:29 o'clock we were off. The skis were in the air after a run of 30 seconds--an excellent takeoff. A calm expectation took hold of my mind.

6 Had you been there to glance over the cabin of this modern machine which has so revolutionized polar travel, I think you would have been impressed most of all--perhaps first of all--with the profusion of gear in the cabin. There was a small sledge, rolled masses of sleeping bags, bulky food sacks, two pressure gasoline stoves, rows of cans of gasoline packed about the main tank forward, funnels for draining gasoline and oil from the engines, bundles of clothing, tents, and so on ad infinitum. There was scarcely room in which to move.

7 June had his radio in the after bulkhead on the port side. From time to time, he flashed reports on our progress to the base. From the ear phones strapped to his helmet ran long cords so that he might move freely about the cabin without being obliged to take them off. His duties were varied and important. He had to attend to the motion picture camera, the radio, and the complicated valves of the six gasoline tanks. Every now and then, he relieved Balchen at the wheel or helped him to follow the elusive trail.

8 McKinley had his mapping camera ready for action either on port or starboard side. It was for him and the camera he so sedulously served that the flight was made. The mapping of the corridor between Little America and the South Pole was one of the major objectives of the expedition.

9 Balchen was forward, bulking large in the narrow compartment, his massive hands on the wheel, now appraising the engines with a critical eye, now the dozen flickering fingers on the dials on the instrument board. Balchen was in his element. His calm, fine face bespoke his confidence and sureness. He was anticipating the struggle at the "Hump" almost with eagerness.

10 It was quite warm forward, behind the engines. But a cold wind swept through the cabin, making one thankful for heavy clothes. When the skies cleared, a golden light poured into the cabin. The sound of the engines and propellers filled it. One had to shout to make oneself heard. From the navigation table aft, where my charts were spread out, a trolley ran to the control cabin. Over it, I shouted to Balchen the necessary messages and courses; he would turn and smile his understanding.

11 That, briefly, is the picture, and a startling one it makes in contrast with that of Amundsen's party, which had pressed along this same course eighteen years before. A wing, pistons and flashing propellers had taken the place of runner, dogs, and legs. Amundsen was delighted to make 25 miles per day. We had to average 90 miles per hour to accomplish our mission. We had the advantages of swiftness and comfort, but we had as well an enlarged fallibility. A flaw in a piece of steel, a bit of dirt in the fuel lines or carburetor jets, a few hours of strong head winds, fog or storm-- these things, remotely beyond our control, could destroy our carefully laid plans and nullify our most determined efforts.

12 Still, it was not these things that entered our minds. Rather, it was the thought of the "Hump," and how we should fare with it.

13 Soon after passing the crevasses, we picked up again the vast escarpment to the right. More clearly than before, we saw the white-blue streams of many glaciers discharging into the Barrier, and several of the higher snow-clad peaks glistened so brightly in the sun as to seem like volcanoes in eruption.

14 Now the Queen Maud Range loomed ahead. I searched again for the "appearance of land" to the east. Still the rolling Barrier--nothing else.

15 At 8:15, we had the Geological Party in sight--a cluster of beetles about two dark-topped tents. Balchen dropped overboard the photographs of the Queen Maud Range and the other things we had promised to bring. The parachute canopy to which they were attached fluttered open and fell in gentle oscillations, and we saw two or three figures rush out to catch it. We waved to them and then prepared for settlement of the issue at the "Hump."

16 Up to this time, the engines had operated continuously at cruising revolutions. Now Balchen opened them full throttle, and the Ford girded its loins for the long, fighting pull over the "Hump." We rose steadily. We were then about 60 miles north of the western portal of Axel Heiberg, and holding our course steadily on meridian 163A� 45' W. with the sun compass.

17 I watched the altimeters, of which there were two in the navigation department. The fingers marched with little jumps across the face of the dial--3,000 feet; 3,500; 4,000; 4,500. The Ford had her toes in and was climbing with a vast, heaving effort.

18 Drawing nearer, we had edged 30A� to the west of south, to bring not only Axel Heiberg but also Liv Glacier into view. This was a critical period. I was by no means certain which glacier I should choose for the ascent. I went forward and took a position behind the pilots.

19 The schemes and hopes of the next few minutes were beset by many uncertainties. Which would it be--Axel Heiberg or Liv Glacier?

20 There was this significant difference between flying and sledging: we could not pause long for decision or investigation. Minutes stood for gasoline, and gasoline was precious. The waste of so little as half an hour of fuel in a fruitless experiment might well overturn the mathematical balance on which the success of the flight depended. The execution of the plan hung on the proper choice of the route over the "Hump."

21 Yet how well, after all, could judgment forecast the ultimate result? There were few facts on which we might base a decision. We knew, for example, from Amundsen's report that the highest point of the pass of Axel Heiberg Glacier was 10,500 feet. We should know, in a very few minutes, after June had calculated the gasoline consumption, the weight of the plane. From that we could determine, according to the tables we had worked out and which were then before me, the approximate ceiling we should have. We should know, too, whether or not we should be able to complete the flight, other conditions being favorable.

22 These were the known elements. The unknown were burdened with equally important consequences. The structural nature of the head of the pass was of prime importance. We knew from Amundsen's descriptions and from what we could see with our own eyes, that the pass on both sides was surrounded by towering peaks, much higher than the maximum ceiling of the heavily loaded plane. But whether the pass was wide or narrow, whether it would allow us room to maneuver in case we could not rise above it, whether it would be narrow and running with a torrent of down-pressing wind which would dash a plane, already hovering near its service ceiling to the glacier floor--these were things, naturally, we could not possibly know until the issue was directly at hand.

23 I stood beside Balchen, carefully studying the looming fortress, still wondering by what means we should attempt to carry it. With a gesture of the hand, Balchen pointed to fog vapor rising from the black rock of the foothills which were Nansen's high priests, caused no doubt by the condensation of warm currents of air radiated from the sun-heated rocks. A thin layer of cloud seemed to cap Axel Heiberg's pass and extended almost to Liv Glacier. But of this we were not certain. Perhaps it was the surface of the snow. If it were a cloud, then our difficulties were already upon us. Even high clouds would be resting on the floor of the uplifted plateau.

24 There was then a gamble in the decision. Doubtless a flip of the coin would have served as well. In the end, we decided to choose Liv Glacier, the unknown pass to the right which Amundsen had seen far in the distance and named after Dr. Nansen's daughter. It seemed to be broader than Axel Heiberg, and the pass not quite so high.

25 A few minutes after 9 o'clock, we passed near the intermediate base which, of course, we could not see. Our altitude was then about 9,000 feet. At 9:15, we had the eastern portal on our left and were ready to tackle the "Hump." We had discussed the "Hump" so often, had anticipated and maligned it so much, that now that it was in front of us and waiting in the flesh--in rock-ribbed, glacierized reality--it was like meeting an old acquaintance. But we approached it warily and respectfully, climbing steadily all the while with maximum power, to get a better view of its none-too-friendly visage.

26 June, wholly unaffected by the immediate perplexities, went about his job of getting the plane fighting trim, less heavy. He ripped open the last of the fuel cans and poured the contents into the main tank. The empty tins he dropped overboard, through the trapdoor. Every tin weighed two pounds, and every pound dropped was to our gain. June examined the gauges of the five wing tanks, then measured with a graduated stick the amount of fuel in the main tank. He jotted the figures on a pad, made a few calculations, and handed me the results. Consumption had thus far averaged between 55 and 60 gallons per hour. It had taken us longer to reach the mountains than we had expected, owing to head winds. However, the extra fuel taken aboard just before we left had absorbed this loss, and we actually had a credit balance. We then had enough gasoline to take us to the Pole and back.

27 With that doubt disposed of, we went at the "Hump" confidently.

28 We were still rising, and the engines were pulling wonderfully well. The wind was about abeam and, according to my calculations, not materially affecting the speed.

29 The glacier floor rose sharply, in a series of ice falls and terraces, some of which were well above the (then) altitude of the plane. These glacial waterfalls, some of which were from 200 to 400 feet high, seemed more beautiful than any precipitous stream I have ever seen. Beautiful yes--but how rudely and with what finality they would deal with steel and duralumin that crashed into them at 100 miles per hour.

30 Now the stream of air pouring down the pass roughened perceptibly. The great wing shivered and teetered as it balanced itself against the changing pressures. The wind from the left flowed against Fisher's steep flanks, and the constant, hammering bumps made footing uncertain in the plane. But McKinley steadily trained his 50-pound camera on the mountains to the left. The uncertainties of load and ceiling were not his concern. His only concern was photographs--photographs over which students and geographers pore in the calm quiet of their studies.

31 The altimeters showed a height of 9,600 feet, but the figure was not necessarily exact. Nevertheless, there were indications we were near the service ceiling of the plane.

32 The roughness of the air increased and became so violent that we were forced to swing slightly to the left, in search of calmer air. This brought us over a frightfully crevassed slope which ran up and toward Mount Nansen. We thus escaped the turbulent swirl about Fisher, but the down-surging currents here damped our climb. To the left, we had the "blind" mountain glacier of Nansen in full view; and when we looked ahead we saw the plateau--a smooth, level plain of snow between Nansen and Fisher. The pass rose up to meet it.

33 In the center of the pass was a massive outcropping of snow-covered rocks, resembling an island, which protruded above and separated the descending stream of ice. Perhaps it was a peak or the highest eminence of a ridge connecting Fisher and Nansen which had managed through the ages to hold its head above the glacial torrent pouring down from the plateau. But its particular structure or relationship was of small import then. I watched it only with reference to the climb of the plane; and realized, with some disgust and more consternation, that the nose of the plane, in spite of the fact that Balchen had steepened the angle of attack, did not rise materially above the outcropping. We were still climbing, but at a rapidly diminishing rate of speed. In the rarefied air, the heavy plane responded to the controls with marked sluggishness. There is a vast difference between the plane of 1928 and the plane of 1937.

34 It was an awesome thing, creeping (so it seemed) through the narrow pass, with the black walls of Nansen and Fisher on either side, higher than the level of the wings, and watching the nose of the ship bob up and down across the face of that chunk of rock. It would move up, then slide down. Then move up, and fall off again. For perhaps a minute or two, we deferred the decision, but there was no escaping it. If we were to risk a passage through the pass, we needed greater maneuverability than we had at that moment. Once we entered the pass, there would be no retreat. It offered no room for turn. If power was lost momentarily or if the air became excessively rough, we could only go ahead or down. We had to climb, and there was only one way in which we could climb.

35 June, anticipating the command, already had his hand on the dump valve of the main tank. A pressure of the fingers--that was all that was necessary--and in two minutes, 600 gallons of gasoline would gush out. I signaled to wait.

36 Balchen held to the climb almost to the edge of a stall. But it was clear to both of us that he could not hold it long enough. Balchen began to yell and gesticulate, and it was hard to catch the words in the roar of the engines echoing from the cliffs on either side. But the meaning was manifest. "Overboard--overboard--200 pounds!"

37 Which would it be--gasoline or food?

38 If gasoline, I thought, we might as well stop there and turn back. We could never get back to the base from the Pole. If food, the lives of all of us would be jeopardized in the event of a forced landing. Was that fair to McKinley, Balchen, and June? It really took only a moment to reach the decision. The Pole, after all, was our objective. I knew the character of the three men. McKinley, in fact, had already hauled one of the food bags to the trapdoor. It weighed 125 pounds.

39 The brown bag was pushed out and fell, spinning, to the glacier. The improvement in the flying qualities of the plane was noticeable. It took another breath and resumed the climb.

40 Now the down-currents over Nansen became stronger. The plane trembled and rose and fell, as if struck bodily. We veered a trifle to the right, searching for helpful, rising eddies. Balchen was flying shrewdly. He maintained flight at a sufficient distance below the absolute ceiling of the plane to retain at all times enough maneuverability to make him master of the ship. But he was hard pressed by circumstances, and I realized that, unless the plane was further lightened, the final thrust might bring us perilously close to the end of our reserve.

41 "More," Bernt shouted. "Another bag."

42 McKinley shoved a second bag through the trapdoor, and this time we saw it hit the glacier, and scatter in a soundless explosion. Two hundred and fifty pounds of food--enough to feed four men for a month--lay strewn on the barren ice.

43 The sacrifice swung the scales. The plane literally rose with a jump, the engines dug in, and we soon showed a gain in altitude of anywhere from 300 to 400 feet. It was what we wanted. We should clear the pass with about 500 feet to spare. Balchen gave a shout of joy. It was just as well. We could dump no more food. There was nothing left to dump except McKinley's camera. I am sure that, had he been asked to put it overboard, he would have done so instantly; and I am equally sure he would have followed the precious instrument with his own body.

44 The next few minutes dragged. We moved at a speed of 77 nautical miles per hour through the pass, with the black walls of Nansen on our left. The wing gradually lifted above them. The floor of the plateau stretched in a white immensity to the south. We were over the dreaded "Hump" at last. The Pole lay dead ahead over the horizon, less than 300 miles away. It was then about 9:45 o'clock (I did not note the exact time. There were other things to think about).

45 Gaining the plateau, we studied the situation a moment and then shifted course to the southward. Nansen's enormous towering ridge, lipped by the plateau, shoved its heavily broken sides into the sky. A whole chain of mountains began to parade across the eastern horizon. How high they are I cannot say, but surely some of them must be around 14,000 feet, to stand so boldly above the rim of the 10,000 foot plateau. Peak on peak, ridge on ridge, draped in snow garments which brilliantly reflected the sun, they extended in a solid array to the southeast. But can one really say they ran in that direction? The lines of direction are so bent in this region that 150 miles farther on, even were they to continue in the same general straight line, they must run north of east. This is what happens near the Pole.

46 We laid our line of flight on the 171st meridian.



47 Our altitude was then between 10,500 and 11,000 feet. We were "riding" the engines, conscious of the fact that if one should fail we must come down. Once the starboard engine did sputter a bit, and Balchen nosed down while June rushed to the fuel valves. But it was nothing; to conserve fuel, Balchen had "leaned" the mixture too much. A quick adjustment corrected the fault; and, in a moment, the engine took up its steady rhythm. Moments like this one make a pioneering flight anything but dull; one moment everything is lovely, and the next is full of foreboding.

48 From time to time, June "spelled" Balchen at the controls, and Balchen would walk back to the cabin, flexing his cramped muscles. There was little thought of food for any of us--a beef sandwich, stiff as a board from frost, and tea and coffee from a thermos bottle. It was difficult to believe that two decades or so before the most resolute men who had ever attempted to carry a remote objective, Scott and Shackleton, had plodded over this same plateau, a few miles each day, with hunger, fierce, unrelenting hunger, stalking them every step of the way.

49 Between 11:30 and 12:30, the mountains to the eastward began to disappear, dropping imperceptibly out of view, one after another. Not long after 12:30, the whole range had retreated from vision, and the plateau met the horizon in an indefinite line. The mountains to the right had long since disappeared.

50 The air finally turned smooth. At 12:38, I shot the sun. It hung, a ball of fire, just beyond south to the east, 21A� above the horizon. So it was quite low, and we stared it in the eye. The sight gave me an approximate line of latitude, which placed us very near our position as calculated by dead reckoning. That dead reckoning and astronomy should check so closely was very encouraging. The position line placed us at Lat. 89A� 4 A?' S., or 55 A? miles from the Pole. A short time later, we reached an altitude of 11,000 feet. According to Amundsen's records, the plateau, which had risen to 10,300 feet, descended here to 9,600 feet. We were, therefore, about 1,400 feet above the plateau.

51 So the Pole was actually in sight. But I could not yet spare it so much as a glance. Chronometers, drift indicators, and compasses are hard taskmasters.

52 Relieved by June, Balchen came aft and reported that visibility was not as good as it had been. Clouds were gathering on the horizon off the port bow, and a storm, Balchen thought, was in the air. A storm was the last thing we wanted to meet on the plateau on the way back. It would be difficult enough to pass the Queen Maud Range in bright sunlight; in thick weather, it would be suicidal. Conditions, however, were merely unpromising: not really bad, simply not good. If worse came to worst, we decided we could out-race the clouds to the mountains.

53 At six minutes after one, a sight of the sun put us a few miles ahead of our dead reckoning position. We were quite close now. At 1:14 Greenwich mean time, our calculations showed that we were at the Pole.

54 I opened the trapdoor and dropped over the calculated position of the Pole the small flag which was weighted with the stone from Bennett's grave. Stone and flag plunged down together. The flag had been advanced 1,500 miles farther south than it had ever been advanced by any American or American expedition.

55 For a few seconds, we stood over the spot where Amundsen had stood, December 14th, 1911, and where Scott had also stood, thirty-four days later, reading the note which Amundsen had left for him. In their honor, the flags of their countries were again carried over the Pole. There was nothing now to mark that scene: only a white desolation and solitude disturbed by the sound of our engines. The Pole lay in the center of a limitless plain. To the right, which is to say to the eastward, the horizon was covered with clouds. If mountains lay there, as some geologists believe, they were concealed, and we had no hint of them.

56 And that, in brief, is all there is to tell about the South Pole. One gets there, and that is about all there is for the telling. It is the effort to get there that counts.

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Sunday, Dec. 1

57 . . . Well, it's done. We have seen the Pole. McKinley, Balchen, and June have delivered the goods. They took the Pole in their stride, neatly, expeditiously, and undismayedly. If I had searched the world, I doubt if I could have found a better team. Theirs was the actual doing. But there is not a man in this camp who did not assist in the preparation for the flight. Whatever merit accrues to the accomplishment must be shared with them.